Butch-rugged handsome and nerve-rattling raunchy, foul-mouthed fuck machine Jon Vincent was the Barbra Streisand of queer porn: Always the center, larger than life and fueled by a self-loving vulgarity that made his performances Legend. Like Streisand, Vincent never allowed himself to just “play a role,” he was too intent on topping — and stopping — the show.
His mix of gay for pay ingredients was crazy-making and classic: “Straight,” married and a father — Vincent was a professional baseball player turned competitive bodybuilder who decided to hustle and make porn as something fun to do on the side — and to support his nascent drug habit. His on-set verbal pyrotechnics, merciless ass-poundings and danger-level testosterone made him neon and golden within the grindingly boring world of faked butchness queer porn. It didn’t hurt that he developed a reputation for off camera aggressiveness too, striking terror into mild-mannered co-stars and easy-going directors. Vincent was an unruly handful — and we loved him for it.
Critic Gary Giddins wrote: “Vulgarity has its place, but only when animated by emotional generosity.” Vincent was no emotional cheapskate. He pumped heartfelt excitement and buckets of sweat into even the most dullard couplings. And god help the actors he actually clicked with — couches were destroyed, buttholes decimated, all for the sake of his art. To date, a small collection of his fierce topping scenes are still discussed with minute, breathy veneration on queer message boards and forums all across the net. Everyone seems to have his favorite Jon Vincent “moment.”
By the time of Vincent’s death, in May of 2000, a distinct fissure appeared within the gay adult video world — factions were clearly defined, markets clearly divided. In the new century hardcore was either Above or Underground. The former offered manicured, managed, nearly arid safe-sex porn productions, the later everything Dionysian and dangerous: A cottage industry of hand held-cameras, “real” man-man sex within the wet-hot, back room world of barebacking, cum-eating and fisting — with everything from fists to bald heads and traffic cones.
Our 4 Favorite Jon Vincent Moments
4. Topping Joey Stefano in Falcon’s Revenge.
3. Busting open Danny Sommers in Vivid’s Blue Collar/White Heat.
2. The wild reaming of Rob Cryston in Catalina’s The Bite.
1. The frightening, near-splitting in-half of Matt Gunther in In Hand’s Deep Inside John Vincent.
Like Hades, Vincent could have easily traversed both of these worlds. His hyper-masculinity was intrinsic and theatric. The very best sort of combo. Vincent was dangerous wearing a condom — before barebacking was even a post-AIDS concept. He brought the unfettered, risk-taking spirit of underground porn to the late 80s and mid-90s masses. Today, no amount of leathering or tattooing or piercing or stud-bluffing can mimic what Vincent offered in the simple act of being naked and nasty and fucking someone’s ass until he saw Jesus. For that reason he represents the very last moment within queer porn when a seemingly straight guy could venture before the cameras and really make us believe in the power of domination or joy of submission. Where others fake it, Jon Vincent made it, was it, owned it, rode it and worked it.
You know it, bitch!
The rest is sad and all about The Wane. Placed within the context of dead porn stars, his history in gay and bi-sex videos reads like just another stumbling, charisma-draining happening — not the wild thrusts and banging crescendos of Jon Vincent Superstar grabbing a young Faunlet by the haunches and taking him (and us) higher — NOW! Of that he gave us nearly 10 years worth of thrills. I suppose it’s not right to grumble.
He was born Jeffrey James Vickers in New Orleans on December 17, 1962. At twenty he was signed to play baseball with the Kansas City Royals, but a coke-related bust, a year later, had him fired, in shock and psychologically wounded. He told a reporter that his debacle had broken his father’s heart. From there it was on to competitive bodybuilding and queer porn. Drugs came calling — and then rehab — and then more drugs — and then, on May 3, 2000, after successfully auditioning for the part of an ex-con in the New York production of Ten Naked Men, Vincent was found dead on his kitchen floor. The coroner ruled his death a suicide because gobs of undigested Valium were discovered in his stomach. Long-time friends claim it was just John celebrating too hard. An accidental heroin overload.
His director and friend Dino Colbert told Adult Video News shortly after his death:
“I was truly one of the few [directors who] could handle his short attention span and temper. He didn’t hesitate to put his fist through a wall or terrorize a director or two. And his scene partners had to be forewarned that he might grab their hair and pound them against a headboard or a wall…He was the most intense model I’ve ever worked with.”
And the most intense star we ever imagined playing with.
Jon Vincent proved that nasty, aggressive sex is both a profoundly exciting pornographic spectacle and a metaphoric representation of transformation and self-discovery. Watching Vincent bellow, growl and fuck was like taking a private, self-administered lie detector test. One had to ask: “Am I having that much fun? And if not, why?” For his nearly cartoonish masculine fervor, feral dirty-talk, and making us secretly wonder — while stroking our meat — we’ll be eternally grateful.
Our 10 Favorite Jon Vincent Dirty-Talking Lines
10. Yeah, suck it good — let it talk to ya baby.
9. This is no dream baby, this is happening.
8. Let it breathe a second — and then go back down on it.
7. I’m gonna drive that juice up into ya baby.
6. I just don’t know how nasty I can get.
5. I’m gonna pop that back wall baby.
4. You love getting your ass sprung. Let me feel it inside your stomach.
3. I gotta go in baby, yeah, I gotta go in. It’s mine and I’m gonna take it.
2. Oh you little bitch. You like that penetration. Oh daddy likes fucking you, you little bitch.
1. Let me go in deep. Here it comes baby. There it is. Doing damage baby, it’s doing damage.
A Thousand and One Night Stands: The Life of Jon Vincent by H. A. Carson.
Several years ago there was mention of a documentary in the making, titled The Jon Vincent Story, but we haven’t heard much more about it since.
Wow!
I would have easily paid thousands of dollars, just to have Jon plug my ass. No one, and I mean NO ONE could work an asshole over like Jon. Thanks for this great piece. It’s nice to see him get his due.
Where can you find these videos?
No one before or since made/make porn as erotic with a simple “daddy’s gonna fuck you” whisper in the ear. Although most of today’s porn does the required trick, a Vincent movie still sends shivers throughout and like old faithful, fufills the “verbal abuse/daddy’s boy” fantasy for this 49 year old “geezer” to this day.
I LOVE YOUR WEB SITE
I had the amazing experience of seeing Jon Vincent live at the Show Palace in New York in 1991. He looked incredible,huge, much bigger and more handsome than in his photos or videos. I sat in the front row and was too shy to j/o in public but as a result I have the indelible memory of John saying to me “take out your cock, baby, it feels good, let me drop a load on your lap.” He came in wearing just a towel and ripped it off before he even got on the stage. Favorite video scene–”Rassle,” last scene–”you wanna eat my ass? You dirty little pig!” I read “A Thousand One Night Stands,” brutally honest. Needed a good editor but in a way the choppy writing and repetition is very real, a true diary of the nightmare of being hooked on drugs. There has never been, never will be, a porn star like Jeff Vickers/Jon Vincent. Rest in peace JV.
I grew up down the street from Jeff Vickers/Jon Vincent in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He was 2 years older than me and used to bully me when I visited his next door neighbor who was my friend. He was always very aggressive, which totally turned me on. I can remember fatasizing about him while I jacked off in junior high and high school. I lost contact with him until I ran into him after I moved to New York. A few weeks later I saw him in a porn video and almost had a heart attack. I saw him often in NYC, but I never did get to reintroduce myself to him before he ended up dead. Strangely enough, he is buried in the same mausoleum as my grandmother, and I still am reminded of him when I go to pay my respects to her.
Men making love turn me on. Two summers ago, I got up the nerve and stopped into a local video store one afternoon coz I wanted to see a gay video. I grabbed the first video from the gay section off the shelf and hurried out the door of that sleazy back room coz I was embarassed to be there…I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and this particular store is situated between two very prominent churches!!! Of course the video I had grabbed was HEAVENLY !!! (TRUE STORY !!!) WAS I EVER IN FOR A TREAT! THE FIRST GAY SEX VIDEO I GET MY GRUBBY LITTLE HANDS ON WAS THE BEST GAY PORN STAR THAT EVER LIVED. Needless to say, I was very aroused and I climaxed during the fireplace scene, listening to his voice as he pounded away at his lover, watching his beautiful body work out in the most erotic way! After the video ended I rewound it quickly to see the credits to try and figure out who the luscious babe was…JON VINCENT. I quickly did an internet search and sadly found out he’d passed from this world just 3 years earlier. How heart-wrenching to find out in his book that he was so tormented and addicted…he died a broken-down soul. Alone. WASTED. NOBODY DESERVES THAT. HE BROUGHT ALOT OF JOY AND PLEASURE TO ALOT OF PEOPLE. I MISS HIM AS IF HE HAD BEEN A PART OF ME.
My last name is Vincent, when I saw my first Jon Vincent movie it many years ago and it was called Hunk it was a real treat for me, I had my first apartment and my first gay movie that I got from a video/bookstore not far from where I was living in another town. I always dreamed he was like my neighbor while watching the movie, it was really the best eye opener of gay movies. I dont have the movie now it got worn out from all the times I watched it, but the memories he left through me were the best.
I hope where ever he is, his soul will touch mine each night and know he had guys who would’ve given him a life of love if he ever really searched.
I love sharing the last name, it really makes it one of a kind. God loves You, Jon
Your brother in Spirit
Terry
what can I say? the only movies porno that I saw that 100% captured, kept, made me wish I could transport myself into a film were his. fine, never think I saw him with a black male, dreamed of being the first..saddened to hear of his death…feel kinda creeped out still finding him overwhelmingly handsome…
Jon was awesome. Way sexy….!
I used to do fone sex with him. He was totaly into it. On a few occassions he was broke and need my cash fast. He said it was for his expensive high protein and supplement regime.
On 4 or 5 occassions I tape recorded our fonesex.
Its still sizzeling.
BILLY What I wouldn’t give for a listen to one of those recordings?!!
Yeah Billy. Why not post a few of those on a yahoo website for us to also enjoy.
Yes, we want to hear Jon’s sexy voice. Please….
You’re saying that I could post the sound recordings? Hhmmm……I think hat I would be willing bu thow do I do that? (OR are you suggesting that I transcribe?)
Billy
I also, like the rest of you loved seeing Jon in videos and it really hit me seeing this page dedicated to his life. death doesn’t scare me, just bothers me. I hope that somewhere, through it all, the drugs, porn and “acts/acting” that he was able to say, and truly mean, I’m one happy S.O.B.
Sorry to sound Oprah”ish” but I really hope he knew how loved he was, nude or not. Rest in peace! You really did succeed, whether you knew it or not, in the sport of life.
Ideas on getting you guys to hear the audio tapes?
Hi Billy, this is David K., the publisher of Nightcharm.
We’d be willing to post some of the audio for you, and serve it from our server, if you’d like to share some snippets of the recordings you have. You can contact me here: (link)
and let me know what you think.
Best,
David K.
Thats one huge fucking dick man who wouldnt want that up their ass i would never want to stop having sex with that huge fucking rod
there is no tape, the guy is a liar
I met Jon Vincent in West Hollywood years ago with his wife. I found him to be incredibly charming and fun. His wife was so sweet and obviously crazy about him. I asked her how she felt about him doing what he did. She told me that it didn’t bother her, he was never romantic with the men and he wasn’t allowed to screw other women on film or otherwise. I asked her if she feared him liking what he was doing in film too much and she said she didn’t. She said that she knew him well and for many reasons, she knew he could and would never “settle down” with a man. I found them to be quite a fascinating couple and am so sorry that I will never have the pleasure of seeing them again. I am even more sorry that neither of them will never know how impressed I was with them as people and a couple. I knew he was handing out his cell # to guys that night, but I also knew she was right and that he loved her more than any short term pleasure they could bring him.
I am jeff’s first cousin. Want to see a picture of him as a teenager i have all kinds. I miss him every day of my life. He was my buddy.
for mimi: if we can’t hear his voice at least send us the pix of him as a teenager please
i am a 40 yr old (#1 JEFF VICKER’S FAN!!!)native of baton rouge, la., jeff’s hometown. we did everything together growing up. sports at the same high school: “The Bucs” Broadmoor HS Goodwood Blvd. BR, La.(I know all of you want to see him in a high school baseball uniform…too bad, queens, y’all don’t know ANYTHING about “The Vick” go jack your shit to someone else b/c my brotha’ was not into any of that bullshit!!! think about it for two seconds and get off my boy’s jock, please!!! it was all for the $$$$ for the dope you ALL know he fought and FOUGHT with so, if y’all really, really loved him so much, why didn’t any of you help my poor lost friend. I was locked up on a 15yr dope charge myself and the only info ANYBODY would give me was Jeff was DIRECTING STRAIGHT PORN!! I would have broke out to save him from you bunch of fuckin’ queen ass fuckin’ bitches(you want to get fucked in the ass? call me! you won’t be able to talk again to call anybody after I beat that bung hole up, remember I learned to hate and abuse queens from the best, I do everything just like he would just for his rememberance and respect he still gets from the real people who knew him) we all get lost at some point and time, I know I ceartainly did and STILL do!), trained together for bodybuilding after his baseball and my football career ended and we both went back to BR to “run that bitch”! So, if there are some true JEFF VICKER’S fans and NOT just a bunch of want to be butt pounded fags, give big joe a shout and you’ll really “Trip on the Vick..”(just one of a million sayings, quotes, phrases, pictures and story after story) RIP my brotha’ I know you’re up there with your Dad, “Stan the man with the Plan” looking down on your little brother and #1 fan Paul “Sweet P” Vickers, your beautiful Mother who sold me my first steriod cycle and pronounced DECA, decker! And I KNOW, I JUST KNOW you see that Handsome Strapper of a Man, your son, Jamie, what a chip off the old block, made you a grandfather and everything, just like we did to Stan & my Dad…Ha! Don’t worry Vick, I’m letting everybody that asks me know the real story, hey…at least they’re STILL talking, you always knew how to keep them doing that!!! See you on the other side, save that bench press with 405lbs on it for me like you use to! You know I’m always late but, I ALWAYS show and that’s just another of your precious things I’ll take with me!! “Pull ya’ shit, and let’em ALL trip on “THE BACK” (he refered to his body parts like they were the only one in the world! “THE CHEST”, “THE WHEELS”… PS. To all queens: we trained at Foxy’s in Baton Rouge if y’all want to go see if you can still smell our balls!
HEY, GREAT NEWS….JON VINCENT HAS BEEN REINCARNATED!!
TRENT COUGAR IS BY ALL QUALITIES…THE CURRENT BLOND VERSION OF VINCENT….HIS LATEST VID HELLROOM PROVES HIS ABILITIES…..
I”m his son and for all fags I hate every one of u. thats why I get a kick out of fucking youll up every time i see one one the street you are all weak punks
jeffrey — another whackjob with an internet connection
I am the wife of jeff’s son and the mother of his grandson. What you faggs are doing is digusting and immoral you should be ashamed of yourself. We know who all of you are and all of you are going to pay for this one day. Jeff has a beautiful grandson and it upsets me to think that you butt pluggers are talking like this about his grandfather. If you were a true friend of fan of jeff you would stop posting all of these horrible things about him. we do not want our son growing up hearing all of this not to mention the hurt that you are putting jeff’s son through saying all of these things. Imagine if that was your dad. How would you feel but don’t worry there is a safe place in HELL for all of you for pulling apart our family. Jeff would have never have wanted his son or grandson to remember him this way. Jaime truly loves his father with all of his heart despite all of the things he did in desperation of an addiction. Don’t ruin his life because all of this is truly crushed him and I know that Jeff is looking down right now ready to beat the fuck out of all of you for putting his son and grandson through this.
Quaint isn’t it how these sad fag-haters just can’t accept how a handsome stud like Jon could ever get into gay sex. Whether he was predominantly straight or gay, he obviously got off on it and thanks be that he did. He died a legend.
It’s also an established fact that guys (and women) with these attitudes are also pretty disfuntional in their straight sex world. But god knows what sort of kick they get from writing such inane rubbish. They really are very, very sad individuals.
i am in love
“You know you want it, You wanna touch it, You wanna taste it, You wanna take it.”
Ride the mind way baby. Long life the KULT. My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult.
- Miss Vixen
well, he was my favorite, feels creepy to still call him so, with his being deceased. seemed quite the man, all top, that fantasy guy who sees you looking and second he gets you to himself will really give it to you for it. only porn star with a dick as compelling, with a presence as commanding, is fred fele. forgot what else he calls self now, but look into him. wish I coulda hooked with vincent though…
Does anyone know of any places on the web with Jon Vincent soundbites? Those dirty talk lines are funny as hell.
John was, stated simply, the best. I hired him three times to “take me to heaven”, while he was living in Los Angeles. He fucked me like a hungry animal and reminded me how good it is to be alive. I’m grateful to him for all he contributed to the industry and to “daddy-hungry” bottom boys like me.
you should show videos and movies! it should be HARDER!!! SEX!!!!!!!!
let it go, kay.
Yeah, she needs to let it go … get a life, dumb ho!
Jon, you sexy f*ck! I wish, like so many, that I could’ve been there to help you. I got clean and sober in 1996. I wish you could have made it too!
Kay, Jeffrey and “Big Joe” are obviously still in a lot of pain over Jon’s death, which is certainly understandable, as they obviously loved him. But it is ludicrous to hate gay men for purchasing and enjoying his numerous videos. To imply that his many gay fans are in some way responsible for his death is lunacy! We all must live with our choices: He made a CHOICE to exploit his body for profit in gay films; he made a choice to take drugs – nobody made him do it! Lots of people want to make a good living, and they don’t make porn. He could have made money w/o causing his family distress if he had truly wanted to. No one forced him to have sex for money on film. If his judgment was faulty, who is to blame? When a person puts himself out there in such a provocative way, for public consumption, people are going to write about it and talk about it. This isn’t Iraq, people have the right to say and think what they think. I happen to think you are misguided and in denial.
Who the hell are you to judge homosexuals, anyway? No doubt many straight homophobes would say Jon/Jeff (whatever) got what he deserved, that he lived an immoral life, and paid the consequences. The common term for someone who accepts money for sex is “prostitute,” so your moralizing is puzzling and misplaced. He alone is responsible for the pain you feel. He had to know somewhere in his mind that his son would come to know the things his father did for money, so your righteousness and aggressive hatred is a pathetic way to honor his memory! Countless EDUCATED people, gay and straight, would take offense to your reference to “faggs,” which somebody doesn’t even know how to spell. You have no right to dictate the behavior of other people. There have been gay people since the beginning of time and your hate-mongering isn’t going to change that. And if you go around “beating up fags” you’ll end up jail for assault, and rightfully so. I would advise you to keep it on the down-low and exhibit some self-respect and restraint! You are obviously embarrassed and ashamed but you aren’t responsible for what he did. Perhaps you feel guilty for not intervening? Now that his nightmare is over, perhaps he would want you to show a little class, if you’re capable.
I sincerely hope that you can find a way to put it all in the past and go on with your lives and try to be happy in “the now.” I shudder to think what a world we would live in if everyone employed the “logic” you exhibited when you posted your messages to this website. As if they were any classier than graphic comments about Jon’s anatomy or sexual exploits made by other folks. Congrats to you for simply adding to the overwhelming amount of hate present in the world today. I hope it made you feel better; it made me want to HURL!
Anybody can say they’re anyone on the net. I doubt the bitch is even related to JV.
unfortunately i just found out who Jon Vincent was 2 weeks ago. He is the most amazing, handsome man, i have ever seen. I purchased two dvd’s. Take my advice, don’t buy Deep inside Jon vincent. It’s mostly other guys, not much of him. No Top guy in porn will ever even come close to filling his shoes….He had it all.like some one said, he really did succeed, maybe he didnt realize it.. Guys who love seeing a guy get fucked by a dominant top…will rediscover him for years to come.
I actually managed a meeting with Mr. Vincent in the mid-to-late 90s. He seemed very sweet to me, trying to play tough guy at the time. I described it as being with Mike Meyers in the body of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Who knew he had this other side…which is not to say that he wasn’t DEFINITELY on top! He described himself as a “tragic top,” and wanted to play a kind of semi-rape scene. Believe me, I didn’t argue.
I had no idea about his personal demons at the time, and was sorry to hear about his OD and other personal troubles. It’s terribly sad, and I feel bad that I may have somehow contributed to his demise.
They don’t make ‘em like that anymore, sad to say…
You guys don’t really believe those sad, demented people above truly have any relation whatsoever to Jon ? They’re just a couple of whackjobs with time to burn.
Let’s face it, and put yourselves in the shoes of members of his family for a second, what you’d need, and want, would be quiet, dignified grieving and *personal closure* for your dead loved ones who are now beyond any possible harm caused by past behaviour or mistakes. And i’m sure his son learned early on (likely the hard way, unfortunately) to cope with his family’s history like all of us in similar situations did (my mother was a prostitute although not a famous porn star, but there you go), as if you don’t you’ll end up fucking up your own life as well.
Passing on the blame to someone else for your/a loved one’s mistakes is so embedded in american life that we – in other parts of the world – often wonder what kind of twisted reality some people live in. Such behaviour and flawed thinking was IMHO created and now continuously encouraged by the massive number of lawyers – did i say vultures ? – trying to scrounge a living off the back of poor people by means of deferred/no win no fees policies.
In parts of the world were you pay your legal fees in full and upfront, you think very long and hard before suing someone; in such places passing on the blame onto somebody else is hardly ever experienced.
Learn to look into your hearts instead of your wallets, learn to stand up and take responsibility for your actions and their consequences, otherwise bash queers as much as you like, but a real man you ain’t.
It was my pleasure to meet Jeff (aka: Jon) in the last year of the 90’s in L.A. He was always my favorite porn actor growing up and when I saw his ad in a paper I thought …what the heck, call it a birthday present. I met Jeff at a place he was staying at , I think he was just flopping at a buddy’s place and got to business. In all honesty, as a top myself I had no idea what I really wanted from this and I was content with messing about a bit. Afterwards, Jeff asked me for a ride…I didnt realize it was to score drugs till later on. My memory of that evening is that on the way to some crappy apt in a bad neighborhood of downtown L.A. Jeff bought me a donut. All I could think was “wow” my favorite pornstar just bought me a bear claw. I ended up hanging out with Jeff a bunch after that, in a completely non sexual way. Going and spending time with him at the sleazy hotel he lived at in west hollywood…the one where Joey died a while earlier. I ended up doing a bunch of driving around for him, bringing him to a tricks place, to fuck, or to sell his underwear. I have to say, he was trully a nice as hell guy to me, he never did and drugs in front of me, he treated me well, we hung out, went to the gym a couple of times.Once when he had a trick at the motel room I went out to Dennys with two of his porn buddies and had breakfast
He seemed like he was trying to stop the drugs, it was only later on after I had lost touch with him and moved back to the east coast that I had heard of his death. I know the rep that he had, but I have to honestly say that I have fond memories of a really generous and kind guy. I wish I had gotten to say goodbye.
One other thing I forgot (seeing the previous post reminded me). Jon (aka Jeff) was on his way to some kind event that night — it was around the time of Madonna’s “Erotica,” and he said she was very supportive/interested in porn stars. It was cold out, and he was wearing a fuchsia GAP turtleneck. He asked me if he could trade it for a t-shirt, something that would “show off his muscles.” I looked through my collection, and gave him one that had Fire Island emblazoned on it. He (of course) looked STUNNING in it — loads better than it ever looked on my slim (I’m being charitable to myself) body. I still have his turtle neck.
He was sweet — I remember that when I told him that I had specifically requested (he had some kind of intermediary handling his appointments) to meet with him, he hugged me and said “AWWWWW.” I don’t know if he was genuinely touched, but he made it sound like it. I had a chance to get together the next day, but he called so early in the morning, I was somewhat incoherent so it didn’t happen. I called him one more time whe he was in NYC and he sounded different — kind of abrupt and unfriendly. It might have been a bad time for him, but I decided not to call him back…alas. It was only recently that I did a Google search and found out that he had died of an overdose (either purposeful or accidental), and had a major drug problem. Hee looked SO healthy, I would never have guessed. So sad…
P.S.: I know Jon (Jeff) was married, but did he even have kids, let alone grandchildren? He was four years younger than I, which means it’s theoretically possible, but it would practically have had to be a shotgun wedding….
i saw jon on the cover of Men Magazine a few years ago, so of course i bought it.
inside were fucking fantastic pics of him in leather, muscles rippling, mean looking face.
then i found out he OD’d … how very sad.
too bad he didn’t have a friend in the world to pull him out of his hell, cuz going thru that kind of thing alone is just that, pure hell.
rest in peace, daddy.
i’ll miss you.
To all of your reply. Yes, I am infact Jeff’s Daughter-in-law, I am married to his only son and I AM the mother of his only grandson. Personally I have nothing against gay people but, for you to understand my furry. To look at my husband and the hurt that he has went through with all of this is so hard for me to watch. No he did not know about the most of things that Jeff did in this carrer, his mother did a very good job of keeping this side of everything away from him. Only to his surprise to log on to this website and seeing all of this stuff about the man the he idolized more than anything else in this world. Try to imagine that feeling you may not understand because you are gay but just try. As i glance up I see a picture of my husband, Jeff and his brother it upsets me to see it. My husband and my son are carbon copies of Jeff. The way they talk, walk, and sometimes act. And could not look anymore like him besides all the muscles. I know that none of this is your fault, it is just very hard for us to think of raising our son around this secret that, may come back to haunt him and he may one day feel the pain that I have watched this family go through with this. And as a mother it is very painful to think that the bad mistakes and misjudgment of his grandfather may cause him hurt. I know that you are all fans of him and I respect that but, do you really think that jeff would have wanted his legacy carried on to his son or grandson as this. I understand writing run-in’s that you had with him but to graphically talk about him in this manner. and, i understand that is your opinion and your way of life. But, just stop and think about all of the lives that are affected by this ecspecially that small little boy and that grown man that have to go out in this world everyday, constantly having to let this go and constantly be reminded of his father’s mistakes only because people recognize him. I don’t really care if any of you don’t believe who I am but, If you would like to challenge me so be it. Just read the book it is all in there. Yes, Jeff was married three times and yes he does have a son he talks to him in the book. But, no he did not ever get a chance to meet his grandson. he was born much later. The book is quite compelling and is all from the mouth of Jeff himself, although hard to follow at times but some parts of this book came to a great ease to us in our struggle to go on past this and have a normal life.
Kay — or whoever you are — grow up! “Jon Vincent” was a porn persona; he’s not the same thing as the real man who played him. “Jon Vincent” was simply a fictional character in a series of gay porn movies. The real man you are talking about made his choices and was rewarded for them. Those choices, and their consequences, are none of your business.
The “Jon Vincent” of the porn loops doesn’t belong to you or his son, if in fact you are who you claim to be (why would his son be spending time on a gay porn site, by the way?) “Jon Vincent” belongs to his fans. The people he made love him.
Frankly, your sob stories seem too over-the-top to be real. If the man’s son doesn’t like reading about his father’s porn career, then HE SHOULDN’T READ ABOUT IT.
The rest of us can do what we want. Isn’t it time you moved past all this?
Let’s re-visit John Vincent’s alleged daughter-in-law’s first post in this thread to gain a little objectivity regarding her statement above, the one in which “Kay” writes: “I have nothing against gay people…”
Fair enough.
OK, now, back to “Kay’s” first post from some months ago, where she shows she’s “nothing against” the gays:
“What you faggs are doing is digusting and immoral…”
“We know who all of you are and all of you are going to pay for this one day.”
“…you butt pluggers are talking like this…”
“…don’t worry there is a safe place in HELL for all of you…”
“… Jeff is looking down right now ready to beat the fuck out of all of you…”
Right Kay, nothing against the gays. You’ve graduated high honors from the Fred Phelps school of Christian love.
Honey, rather than trawling gay porn sites I’d suggest spending that time in therapy to deal with your hatred, bigotry and homophobia. I shudder to think of the emotional environment your “child” is being reared in. What a nightmare.
Kay, isn’t it time you moved on and married one of Liza Minnelli’s ex-husbands? Freshen up your fantasy life, drop a few pounds, get a new pair of flip-flops, and start bitching about another celebrity you’re remotely related to (NOT!)
My goodness! That is real nice!
this site is better than a drink at the local bar. Lot’s of personality clashes, and very few instances of spell check censoring!!
I am Jon’s cousin’s, wife’s, best friend’s, sister’s uncle and I once landed in Baton Rouge airport which is the same airport I bet Jon once used. Even though I’m straight I just happened to be on a gay website and I’m appalled..APPALLED I SAY…at the depraved things you all are saying about this wonderful man. He needed the money, he did not enjoy any of that gay sex AT ALL. I’m gonna go watch Fox News now.
After reading the entire series of messages, I think that several strong points have been made on all sides. For many – Jon/Jeff’s death was a painful blow, and he will be missed. Some of us handle death, the legacy of those departed in several ways, and not always pleasant ways.
Generally it is not a good thing when gay men scorn the relationships of others, when many of us want the dignity of our relationships recognized. Members of Jeff’s family have expressed a great deal of pain in light of Jeff’s death. Death is painful and there is no way to sugar-coat it. There are so many different feelings at different times, but know one day it will be all aright.
Many of Jon’s fans “know him” through his gay video work – through the character Jon Vincent, a fictional person. Of course many other porn stars die in obsurity, leave the business never to be heard from again, or very sadly meet another fate. Jon left a bit of himself in his writing – something that most do not. Usually these folks have no actual impact on the lives of the performers, anymore than most TV-watchers impact the lives of TV-stars.
Some of Jon’s friends interacted with him in life, and may wonder what they could have done in a different way. Some questions just can not be answered. Cherish the memories since that’s all you have left of him.
Would there be such a long list of messages, if Jeff/Jon was not the person that he was? He affected more people than can be known, in more ways that can be known.
Mike
I knew Jon in the early nineties in Atlanta. I think he only visited here often (a couple of years in a row) and if my memory serves me right, I think it was only during the winter.
He was never very talkative and he was always very nice.
He was definitely gay, or bisexual; but I think he leaned more towards gay. His being gay or not gay was never a topic. I ran into him many times at the Atlanta Eagle on the weekend. [This was back in the days when Atlanta really lived-up to the popular title: "Hotlanta;" which is, sad to say, a thing of the distant past.]
At the time, the subject of his being a pornstar only came up once. [I wasn't anywhere near as well versed on gay video porn as I am now, I just mainly looked at magazines.] So I asked him once if he had ever done any posing in gay porn magazines. I qualified my question by saying that I had a magazine (I don’t remember which one at this point) that has a really hot guy in it that looks just like him. He hesitatingly said that he had done some modeling and shrugged it off and quickly changed the subject. I was so green about video porn that I didn’t make the connection in my head as to who he actually was until a few years later. Oh, the questions I would like to ask him now.
If I had known then what I know now, I probably would have avoided him. I was much younger, much more shy and much less experienced. I would probably have been incredibly intimidated. Looking back on it, I have the feeling that that is exactly what he was looking for. People who didn’t know him.
Ok, so you ask: Why did I say up front that I always thought he was gay? Answer: He was always looking for sex.
What kind of guys did he like?
Answer: guys who were smaller and very thin but not overly so, ummmmmm, like me. He also wanted bottoms only.
Next obvious question……that I don’t even have to type….
Answer: Yes, three or four times (over the period of about two years).
Next obvious question: Did I ever pay for it? God No, I wouldn’t have if I wanted to because I could never have afforded it at the time.
Did he ever talk dirty to me during sex? No, as I said above, he was never talkative and that was consistent during sex. I guess the dirty talk was all just an act. [What an actor!]
Did we do drugs together? Only once, the last time we had sex. He may have been doing something when we were together before that; but I wasn’t aware of it.
What drug/s? Just pot, though that was the most unbelievably fantastic pot I’ve ever smoked. I even asked him when I saw him later if there was something extra in it. He answered no, although he shrugged it off and changed the subject quickly like he often did.
I could to go into more detail now because sex with him was always great and interesting, for such a marginally experienced guy like I was then; but instead, I’ll leave it up to any subsequent posts here (in response) as to whether to describe more detail or not.
Given my experience with him, I think it’s pretty funny that those posting here only ever refer to Jon’s sexual drive as being motivated by money and/or drugs alone. That just wasn’t my experience. He was very, very sexual. He was seeking gay sex in a gay bar, and, NOT for money. Honestly, I wasn’t that much of a distraction to deter someone who had such strident motivations.
Further, I was finally motivated to respond with my comments here due to the comments of his family, ignorant as some of them are. You see, I discovered my own father’s gay past in 1992, twenty years after he died, in momentos he kept hidden all of his life. I’m talking about love letters with photos from when he was away in the military. Yes, these were from before he was married and while he was married. He drank himself to death by age 50. As his curious 39 year old gay son, I long for and would give just about anything to know that part of him, which I will never know.
If you really are Jon’s son or his son’s wife, you need to come to grips with reality. Denial is not just a river in Africa. To think for a moment that a totally straight man, from any background, could repeatedly over many, many years keep revisiting the gay world, for sexual release, for money, for drugs or for fame alone is simply stupid. Acceptance of people for who they really are IS what is most important. The jury is still out on whether or not genetics plays a significant role in determining sexual orientation. Like it or not, your son could be gay. Whatever his orientation turns out to be, don’t teach him ANY of the commonly-held negative things about homosexuality. Why? Well, if he is gay, you might be driving him into an early grave too. Gay-teen suicide is a huge, huge problem that is almost always swept under the rug. We are talking about the “real” facts of life here, nothing more, nothing less.
And of course, wouldn’t a world without such unnecessary hatefulness and self-destruction be what we all should strive for?
Thanks
I love Jon. The best in the world
Jeffrey and Kay – What are you doing in a sick porn site. You had to dig to find this one. Get your rocks off some other way and stop trying to play with these sick queens minds; that includes me.
Hello Everyone,
The posts are WONDERFUL, please keep them coming. I love to read the stories of people who knew Jeff/Jon and interacted with him.
Yes, it’s true, the people closest to him, family etc. probably denied his true orientation and rejected that part of him which causes a WORLD of problems for the person who is not accepted, and if you ask me, that’s what helped send him to an early grave! I read his book. I read of the horrible sexual abuse he endured. I read of his shame and humiliation. I read of his own parent’s immorality…He probably had bipolar disorder as well as borderline personality disorder (adjusting/relational/trust issues).
Myself, I had a 40 year old sister who died in 1999 of AIDS which she contracted shooting up heroin with a dirty needle in the mid 80’s. She knew the person she got it from, could pinpoint the exact time and location. She molested me whe I was very little. It’s not often talked about but yes females DO molest other females. She did other things such as try to drown me in a pool…ALL MY LIFE I hated her guts. Kept my distance from her as an adult. She was flamboyantly beautiful, voluptuous and could charm a bird out of a tree. She had manic depression known today as bipolar disorder. She was evil. She knew she had AIDS and still slept around and didn’t tell her partners…
Anyway, when I read Jon’s words, that’s when I understood her. Then I could accept who she was, what she was about. MANY people tried to help him, but he used them and kept doing his antics to keep on in his lifestyle. He admits this in his book! He at one point referred to himself as ‘evil.’
I think he was God’s gift to man (and woman) kind! Delicious demigod. That’s what he was
TO HIS FAMILY: I AM DEEPLY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. I do question why his family would even be on a site such as this if they are so against homosexuality to begin with, much less the lifestyle Jeff lived.
BILLY: What about that tape you mentioned?? Sound bytes published anywhere?
PS: jboystill-atlanta I loved your recollections of Jon/Jeff. I would like to know more detials. And, The NILE is a river in EGYPT (link)
PS: TotallyStraight, I laughed and laughed and laughed so hard at your post I not only wet my pants I think I got my neigbors downstairs upset!
I am a str8t male who likes to talk dirty when I am drilling my woman. What are some of the lines, dialogue, and attitude that he had. Talking dirty is a fine art, and I am always looking to learn more…
not being rude or anything but the guy doesn’t look all that special, I reckon I could f#ck better than him, mind u never seen one of his vids.
Frank Tovey R.I.P.
THIS SITE ROCKS!
Jon Vincent looks like the TWIN BROTHER of CNN International Correspondent John Vause! Imagine Jon Vincent in a suit….mmmmmm
I was a huge fan of Jon’s. Heavenly was the first movie of his I ever rented and I fell instantly in love. The last porn film of his I saw was probably just before his death. I can’t remember the name, but it wasn’t very good. The guy in the film (I think his name was Danny Summers, but I could be mistaken) just blew him, and Jon was wearing a condom during the blow job, which to me indicated that he may have had HIV, as it is very rare to see a blow job with a condom on in Gay Films. He looked sickly to me in the film, but I still loved him. When I read he died shortly after his death, I was very sad. If I remember correctly, I believe the obit I read in “Adult Video News” said his son was 18 (or around that age) at the time of his death, which surprised me that he even had a son let alone one that was that old. I didn’t know that he and I were the exact same age.
Anyway…..It’s very hard to find nice quality images of him on the web, so I would love to see a really cool gallery created of lots of photos of him. In the 90s I use to work at a video store and I always took the copy of AVN Magazine we got every month. I regret not saving them, because there were so many full page glossy color photos in there of the covers of Jon’s videos that I use to jerk off to. I wish I had those “memories” to scan and share with others.
My favorite Jon Vincent line was in a film with this younger blonde guy he often worked with. It was just prior to them having anal sex, Jon was lying on top of this guy’s back and humping him before penetration and whispering in his ear…”You’re gonna feel it….You’re gonna FEEL it!” HOT!
correction: The model I mentioned above was not Danny Sommers, but Bo Summers who worked with Jon on one of his last videos where Jon wore a condom while getting blown.
Jon Vincent was the best top ever. His early movies were definately the best. Seeing him give to hot guys like Kevin Williams, Steve Ross, Alan Lambert and Matt Gunther were HOT. It’s amazing what these guys took and seemed to like it. It would have been really hot to see him in a scene with Christian Fox.
I think Jon Vincent reeks of instant hard on. I was young * virginal when I saw him on video in a baseball uniform. I wanted to go to my knees, kiss his feet and beg for him to humbly take my cherry. Ruin me. I would have sold my pretty boy looks on the street & humbly gave him all my money, to be his submissive for abuse.
I Knew Jon/ Jeff. . He lived down the street from me in Hollywood. I like him. Use to talk with him alot. He was always walking his dog down the street. I think he liked me in his own little way . . . it was kind of hard for me to admit it. . seeing that he had this attitude that he was a straight guy JUST doing the porn AND escoring for money. I think that was his REAL idea about himself. Which is ok with me. . whatever floats your boat! Me and Jeff were both into bodybuilding. I can remember going down to his place and shooting roids with him a few times .. He always wanted to do it with someone. And he always had a juice connection. As well as connections for other stuff too apparently. I mean, I knew he also liked to party. . but I had not idea of what he was doing other than drinking too much. I always wanted to get to know him much more but he never let that inner side of him come out. I could feel that he was this really good guy inside but trapped by what he was involved with. The porn and escorting business can be brutal and can easily twist your perception of reality. I know. . I also dabbled in both. . but not to the extent that Jeff was into it. I think I had a bit more wisdom and relied moreso on my upbringing. Anyway. . last time I saw Jeff was on a visit back out to LA. I had parked on a street and low and behold Jeff was in a car in front of me. . I believe he was with a ‘client’. . Anyway. i sat there and watched . . I wanted to get out and say HEY Jeff. . ..BUT he looked really bad. . . like someone that had been strung out a bit too long. . . so I just sat in the car and watched. . and really felt bad for him . I wanted to jump out and grab him and shake him and say, What are you doing with your life Jeff? But I knew he would never allow me to talk to him like that or at least he would never listen to me. . He had this attitude that HE knew more than anyone else and that HE was MR Stud Man. . . and now look where it all got him? I really feel sorry for him and his family. Im so glad I never got that involved in all that .
Rest in Peace Jeff. I wish I knew you better! Your REAL friend, Dan
So sexy
So charismatic
So charming
So ORGASMIC
So Handsome and beautiful and yet
SO MISERABLE…that is what breaks my heart.
That HE wasn’t having any real FUN with or in and of HIMSELF. This being he was. This incredible, delicious man. Is very missed. Was very truly LOVED. In many different ways, obviously.
To answer one’s request above for a gallery of Jon Vincent’s photos, there are a couple YAHOO groups with great collections.
All the people above and their comments are nice. They can all sit and talk. BUT I WILL GET THE DICK. OTHERS WILLSAY “SOUR GRAPES”
I wanted to leave a message on here and it states that I am banned. First of all I have NEVER left a message on here to begin with and the reasons menstioned on here FOR the ban are totally wrong- yes I am gay but good grief I am way over 18 (I am a Doctor for heavens sakes)do not need to solicite sex and the real one that got me was to set up a unsuspecting “victim” for sex and the real whopper was “money- – - I make in the high 6 figures in income and money is the least of my problems in life. Please get this traken off from here. I emjoy your “Entertainment” sections (if I may call it that) very much but to be wrongly accused of something I will not put up with. PLease not not let me get my attorney involved in this. Just get the “ban” taken off and the mistake on your part will be taken care off and all will be forgotton. Sincerely Dr. D. B. Allen (I WILL be watching this to seethat it IS taken off)
i think i am gay. help
I just stumbled across this web page and had no idea that Jon Vincent was dead. I never knew that he was supposedly gay for pay or even married for that matter. I was living in West Hollywood when I hooked up with him. I was parked behind a bar on Santa Monica Blvd before heading on to another club called Axis. I think it was called the Gold Coast. (this was about 10 years ago) I was going to my car when I saw this buff guy walking towards me. As he came closer I recognized him. I nodded and said “hey” or something like that. He replyed and asked something about what clubs were hot. I told him it depends what you’re looking for and that I’m about to go to Axis to meet friends then to Probe for afterhours because I like muscle guys who like to party. (I was a gym rat at that time, 5′9″ 32″ waist and 180 solid) As we talked he kept eyeing me up & down. He What makes me remember this so vividly is that he asked me where I am from. I replied Weho then told him I had moved to LA a few years ago from Louisiana. He asked what city and I told him. He then asked me if I had a place to go play and party at. I told him yes and he asked if I want to go play. I said sure. He came back to my apt and we played and partied. I’m a top and don’t get fucked. When we got back to my place, we did a couple of bumps and started having sex. He was very intense, at first I thought he was acting or something but then realized he was really into sex. He kept playing with my ass and when he started trying to slide a finger in I grabbed his hand, pushed it away and told him I don’t get fucked. He said he could tell when we first met and thought I was sexy. He asked me what I wanted and I told him I wanted him to suck my cock. He pushed me back on my couch got between my legs and gave me a great blowjob. He was talking nasty the whole time and wanted my load so I shot in his mouth. He swallowed evey drop and kept sucking me until he shot. We both took quick showers and after we both did another bump I drove him back to the parking lot. We never exchanged numbers or names and the only other time I saw him was at a place called JR’s. He was with people and never looked my way.
i like you, i miss you muuuuaaaaccchhh
I want to say that when I lived in San Francisco from 1991 to 2004 I had the greatest pleasure in meeting and having sex with Jon many times as my Escort….
He was such a loving and caring Top I ever met. He was the best Escort I eve had in my life and I had many Escorts in San Francisco..When we had sex it was amazing the feeling of passion and masculin power that surged from him and then after the sex was done he always wanted to be held and always asked for me to run my hands through his hair and hold him… I MISS YOU JON! I loved that man and always will be in my heart!
YOU ARE THE BEST EVER IN EVERY WAY!
Why are you Jon’s / Jeff’s family on any Gay Site unless you feel anger against Gays and want to put the Blame on all of us for his Life Style and Death.. I knew Jeff when he would be in the Bay area and Stayed in Oakland and we would meet! You did not know the REAL Jeff inside! How he felt and the kindness and Love he shared with his Clients or friends..Do you! Jeff’s family ever showed Jeff the understanding and wanted to be excepted for who and what he was? We the Gay’s are Loving and caring people and we are not going to HEll as you put it! We have bad as well as good in our world as well as Straights! It is not for you to pass judgement for that is only Gods job and Christ Died for everyones sins! I am not saying we are sinners! True Christians are to treat fellow human beings with Love and Understanding no matter what Color/ Faith/ or Sexual Orientation! Jeff was a wonderful Man who wanted to be Loved and I ask where were you his Family when he died? Maybe the Blame rest on your heads not ours..It all started from home……The blame can go on forever and jeff/ Jon made his life the way he wanted it but I know that his choice in taking his life came from non excepting and support from his family and the Love he could not find…….!
This has been an amazing exchage of ideas. I love all of you. I don’t recall seeing Jon Vincent on a porn film. But that is irrelevant. We have resurrected a person’s life. Fabulous.
MORE MORE MORE C’Mon guyz and girlz, tell me more about Jon Vincent/Jeff Vickers. PLEEZ
I am Jeff/Jon’s grandson and I sneak on to the internet to see pictures of my grandaddy fucking the tar outta boys and I jack off and wish it was my Grandaddy fucking me.
Somebody PLEEZ do the math! AND scroll up! Re-read Kay’s messages! Jeff’s son Jaime was barely 18 when Jeff died in May of 2000. No way Jeff’s grandson is even OLD enough to even know how to log onto the internet, much less SPELL well enough leave a deranged message like the one above on this site! Whoever you are “Dennis” you are a sick-O!!!
…besides, I live in the south and kids call their granfathers “PAPPAW” here, NOT “GRANDDADDY”!
i was joking you dumbfucks- anybody can say anything and becuz it’s printed you believe them or try to call them liars- grow up- this is the internet where truth is lies and fiction is revealing
“DENNIS” U R A SICK-O! NO LIES.
well i saw him in a video i dont remember the name of and he was wearing these loose 80s pants, but the way he commanded the bottom boy was so hot- and the boy loved it obviously cuz he was hard the whole time- jon told him every move to make and the guy was hungry and gr8ful. why arent there pornos like that anymore?
CUZ THERE WAS ONLY ONE JON VINCENT
I am gay, but I have to agree with his family just give it a rest already. We all wonder why stright people think so bad about us well the stuff you are all writing about Jon is just stupid. The poor guy has passed away, how would you feel if people were doing this to someone in you family that died and you loved. Stop acting like a bunch of pigs. And I am gay but I know how to have some compassion and act like a real man.
So, Paul, now tell us exactly what brought you here in the first place? Compassion? A real man?? I beg to differ. U know whut, Paul? U could find better things to do with your time than to take an hour or so to read through ALL these entries and then leave your comment lambasting the rest of us, some of whom are NOT gay and actually DON’T think so bad about homosexuals after all…To clue you in, Paul, I think this site/blog or whatever it is–is sort’ve like paying tribute/homage/grieving/sharing great stories of the incredible wonderful neat talented intriguing man that Jeff Vickers/Jon Vincent was. NOW DO US ALL A FAVOR & GET LOST ON SOME OTHER PORN SITE WOULD YA?
Jon was very charismatic and appealing in his movies. He also had some unusually strong comedic acting chops (and what seems to be a talent for improv) as based on his performance in “Heavenly”. Compared to many other of his robotic, go-through-the-motions counterparts, he came across as engagingly human and alive.
Hi all, what is wrong with you? … no, seriously, NONE of you ACTUALLY KNOW him, the best thing you can possibly (informedly) say about him is “he looked like a fucking good shag”, and yet, youre all crying and weeping about how much of a shame it is to lose this “wondeful man”, what other achievements of his (other than being a good looking guy who can fuck) do you know of him? all ive herd about him is that he was a filthy little druggie agressive freak..;
it seems apparent to me that a stupid junkie porn gay’s pathetic life is being further trampled (beyond death) by a herd of horny freaks who only miss him because they know the astronomically low chances of them ever getting a shag in on him sideways are made impossible by his burial under 7 feet of earth…
well done, a new low
Jon Vincent is one of the best!
I am a Johnnie-Come-Lately to this exchange but I saw a movie the other day that came to mind when I was reading the posts here. Before I get to that tho:
Jon V. was in some of the first gay porn I saw. It was after college and I had just come out. I was skinny and shy and longed to have sex with a guy just like Jon. That was not going to happen in real life but buying his vids gave me that in my fantasies. He seemed, in a wierd way, accessible. I always somehow felt that even if he was gay-for-pay, there was no outward-directed homophobia from him. Unlike some other gay porn stars, it never seemed that Jon V. was harboring hate for the guy he was having sex with or was secretly disgusted by the what he was doing. There was certainly no affection but maybe his attraction was because of that.
It is a cliche that people are complex, a true one. Most anyway. The more out-of-the ordinary incidents people have in life, the more known and unknown motivations come into play. We all have motivations that we can’t see or articulate. A lot of them are contradictory. Many reasons could be true for why he did what he did: he needed money, he liked to be idolized, he needed to act out homophobic fear, he liked the feelings that man-sex gave him but could or did not want to touch the emotional feelings it brought up. The only person that would know why was him and as I said, he may only have know some viserally. Obviously, drugs (besides being a lot of fun), let him not have to try to figure out the motivations that compelled him.
Anyway, the movie I saw recently that had the same theme is
“Sixteen Years of Alcohol.” It has its flaws but the acting and style are great. The main character is a guy that hates everything, seemingly because he can’t find anything in life not to hate. He desperately wants to be saved but can’t love and trust enough to be, a byproduct of events of his life. It was very sad.
jon fuck me
im naked
get in bed ill pounce on you then stick your cock in my hole
then lets take a shower together
hump me
what kind of website is this?
This thread, running two-plus years long, is an interesting companion to the book he co-wrote, told in his voice. Nothing anyone is saying here is different from what he says in the book about his life, even his friend’s posting – just echoes the same stuff from others’ perspectives. He explains the reasons for his attraction to men (notably a closeted relationship) as well as women, so none of this is new info if you’d read it.
The grandson is way too young to read this, but I suppose the daughter-in-law if she is legit is afraid his reputation will go on and haunt the web. The book is self-published and printed to order, so much harder to stumble across than websites. I’m gay, but her anger at the gay community isn’t offensive to me given that some gay men were a steady source of income for his drug habit. Not their fault, but a relative placing blame in grief – and not seeing him just fade from memory as so many other porn stars do – makes sense. Hopefully her husband will enter some counseling to deal with it, and interest in Vincent will disappear from any Google searches, where he may have found all this in the first place.
Thank you to the post above and as to the onlyonewithsense….he is not buried 7ft under he is in the moseleum next to his father.
to all the family of jon vincent first time i have ever heard of him and lets get one thing straight he did gay porn and as for gay for pay bull shit he sucks dick and by the looks of the pics he was loveing ittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Hey son of John Vincent – the legend, … you are a product of this man’s sexuality. Not only did he make you, but with the money he made – he housed you, fed you, entertained you, …
Don’t be hateful towards a group that admires your Father’s actions and continues to pay into your trust fund. Perhaps it is your Father that you truely hate for the decisions he made in his life. We Love him as a sex god. You should try to understand him as a person.
Peace.
Amazed, truly amazed to see he still has so many fans. It is silly to disapprove of something on the internet. This site has obviosly taken a lot of work and obviously I don’t like reading most of the stuff that has been posted but what I hate the most is comments made by those claiming to be someone whom they are not. And I know they are simply that – NOT. I will probably never visit this site again because all it does is gets me depressed but each to their own. When a person lives in the spotlight, they know the consequences.
Jon Vincent looks like a buff Jackie Gleason.
There’s a full moon out this cold Christmas Night, and I am hankering to warm up by the fire with THE BITE. Anyone care to JON me? LOL
woah i think i just came
I’ve only seen two Jon Vincent scenes – both awesome – but he didn’t suck cock in either of them. Did he give head as aggressively as he fucked? Can anyone tell me the titles of the videos?
BlowBuddy, I saw Jon suck cock in TWO scenes…one in HEAVENLY and one in DEEP INSIDE JON VINCENT, and personally I don’t think he gave head as aggressively as he fucked, however if haven been given the opportunity I would never have turned Jonny Vee down. No SIR~EE!
Jon was a great guy. I met him at one of his last live shows in NYC. He came out with a psuedo Karate-Robe and head band and wanted to be spanked, hard. He kept complaining that I wasn’t swatting hard enough. In between sets, we made a date (for pay) and he wound up staying the night. I’m pretty sure he was high, and it got added to as we played. I saw him a few times afterwards and he was not shy about asking for money in advance. He also loved valium, I remember I always gave him what I had (it was prescribed) and twice, he took me out when meeting a client who wanted a three-some. I was blonde and cute and looked young (but I was tall as he was). I remember that when we were together, he was sweet and affectionate as hell, but on both visits out, he was “the actor” Jon Vincent. I actually didn’t like that part of it, but what the hell, we made a lot of money, and I let him keep it (I didn’t need it – he did) and then he disappeared and then I read that he had OD’d. I do know it was an accident. This was a man who enjoyed life. He felt he could be a legit actor and get out of the business he was in, and he wanted to get off of drugs, but he said he liked having a good time and if it was there, he used. He hated being mothered or fathered, and he was enormously proud. He was a person who was born with certain skills, a hell of a lot of charisma and charm and he knew how sexual he was. I remember having a conversation with him, he was asking me some questions, but he was standing naked, maybe a foot away from me. I had difficulty concentrating on what he was saying, and he knew it and called me on it. He knew he was sexy, but he didn’t want his friends to find him sexy — It was odd. I know he liked me, and I think that why we became “work-buddies” more so that sex wouldn’t mean anything. But, at the end of the day, he cared about people, was kind, very funny and boisterous, but he also had a real need to be seen as a person, accomplished and not dependant on his physical looks or sexual prowess, but on talent and ability. He was a man of contradictions, and deeply honest and loathe at hurting anyone, accidentally or on purpose. He loved making people happy and had difficulty accepting any limitation he may have had. All that being said, he hated not looking good. He hated his stomach (said no matter what he did, he couldn’t get it to look like like he wanted it to look) and always thought he was overweight! He had some odd ideas about what was sexy (he didn’t use deodorant, for one thing) but at the end of the day, he just wanted to be liked and respected. I don’t think he ever knew how many people generally liked him. I miss him and I was crazy about him. I’ll stop going on, because I could write all night and not really get at the root of who he was. He was scared and sweet and infinately tolerant of everyone but himself. He was a genuinely good man who never really believed that. He was Jeff and he was Jon and he was lonely and he was popular. He’s impossible to sum up in a few sentences. He would have loved this site.
“We made alot of money”…”and then he disappeared”…
I dare you to entertain the fact that he is not dead.
Jon Vincent his alter ego is no longer with us, but Jeff Vickers the MAN, still very much is!
I saw him at a Family Dollar in the city where I live in October 2007.
You are so correct, he is extremely sexual and has that charm and charisma you spoke of, even tho the man I saw that day was unkempt, overweight, and had a hangover, buying a prepaid cellphone card with cash. (Only ppl with cash these days are prostitutes and waitresses. You do the math.)
I knew immediately when I laid eyes on him that it was Jon/Jeff. And when he moved, walked, and spoke to the cashier my suspicions were confirmed. Yeah, that was Jon Vincent’s voice, swagger and stance. I did not try to interact with him. He woulda probably asked “What’s a nice lady like you doing mixed up in the seedy underworld of gay porn?” Good question! I love men. I love watching men make love, even to eachother.
Does he live here? Maybe, or maybe he was just passing through. It was a low populated area where I ran into him. But then again, alot of Hurricane Katrina victims from LA, the area where he’s originally from, made their way to this city to start a new life.
After he paid for the phone card he walked next door to the laundromat and met up with a non-descript woman, I was now in my car and in a hurry to get to an appointment. He was wearing a very expensive looking blue jean jacket, but worn blue jeans and a t-shirt. Dirty tennis shoes. Puffy face, bloodshot eyes. Had a slight pot belly. AND he wasn’t 6′2″, more like 5′8″. Never mind, he was still delicious, at least to me.
I think he pulled an ELVIS on us. I think he wanted out of the business. I think he wanted some semblance of a normal life, and I think he is still addicted and plays around for cash to pay for his drugs/entertainment. I think he is living off of and using that woman here in town and living here under yet another pseudonym, maybe like DAVE PHILLIPS–the name he used briefly early on in his career. I think he wants to be left alone too which is why I don’t pursue trying to pin him down here in this town. I’m moving out of state next month anyway…
He is probably very much aware of this forum, and the very good yahoo groups featuring Jon Vincent.
So we can stop mourning over this FUCKING PORN GOD, and say MORE POWER TO YA JONNY VEE! We love you Jeff but we also want you to be happy. I remember when I found out he was dead and read the book Hope Carson published I grieved because the man I had so much fun watching in the videos and dreaming about was actually MISERABLE behind it all. He never really had any FUN. He never got to find inner peace and stability.
Well I want to say get a grip, Jeff Vickers. Deep down I think your fans only want you to be happy. And deep down as you can plainly see, it aint just about sex. WE FELL IN LOVE WITH Y-O-U. NOW LOVE YOURSELF. GREAT BIG HUGS!!!
Jon Vincent was the ELVIS of gay porn.
I just have to say How sorry I am that Jon has passed.
Obviously his family & Fans both loved him.
I had the pleasure of meeting him in 1998 in NYC.
I had just gotten out of a cab and he was walking down 43rd st
he was wearing a red t-shirt. He asked me for a cigareete and we sat on a stoop and talked. Jon asked me if I recoginzed him? I didn’t
He asked me if I knew where to get drugs. I did
We partied at my place for a couple of hrs. He talked about his life and how tired he was from everything and how he wanted to be someone else.Jon felt burnt out.
He was lost.
We layed in bed just talking & doing drugs he was a very gentel soul.
I later realized who he was And when I heard of his death I cried.
he was just a stranger I met on the streets of NY.
but I will always remember that incounter never forget JON VINCENT
Well – I am a straight female. When I was seventeen I saw a pic of an incredible handsome man, almost naked and I bought the magazine, which was a gay one, I don´t recall the name…JON VINCENT was HOT, HANSOME and I never had a problem with the fact that he WAS/WASN’T gay.
He was my sex simbol, and I really think it´s very sad the way he ended up…but that´s life.
R.I.P Sweetie!
His book was nonsense. He was a hustler. PERIOD! They are ALL the same. Poor pitiful me, I will now rip you off.
Is there anyone out here who can give me news about porn star DOMINO ? He was – as far as I can remember – a super bottom in the eighties and I never saw a whole vid on him, just a few fragments and pics.
I don’t know, I always remember Jon fucking Kevin Williams pretty rough in a train from the movie The Look, I think it’s called Don’t Stop the Train. Has anybody else seen that? His scenes with Matt Gunther were great, too, of course, but Kevin Williams real takes the cake….
My name is Max and I am the son of the actor you guys know as Jon Vincent. I always thought I was straight until I found out my dad’s history. Now I constantly fantasize about getting fucked, and sometimes in the fantasies the top if my father.
In my fantasies, the top IS my father, that is.
My Jon/Jeff story isn’t very special, but I have been reading all the posts on here. I met Jon on Columbus Ave in Manhattan back in 91 or 92, I really can’t remember which. I was a buyer for a department store and I used to travel to NYC every month for market, I did that for 8 years. Anyway, I was in the city one weekend and I had gone out for a run. I was wearing a LSU t-shirt, LSU cap and shorts and NIKE’s. I hear someone yelling “LSU, Hey LSU”, well I knew it had to be me. I stopped and this handsome guy jogged over smiling at me. “Did you go to LSU?” During the short conversation he told me he was from Baton Rouge, I told him I was born in New Orleans and went to LSU. He just laughed and said he was born in New Orleans too. I was just a year older than he was. I asked if he lived in NYC and he told me he was here for work……which I was too.
He asked what I was doing later. The only thing I had planned that night was to go to my favorite burger place and have some supper. He met me there bout 2 hours later and had burgers, fries and they made great shakes, I had one, he didn’t. We talked about Baton Rouge and the places we both knew. After supper, I walked back to the condo and he got a cab. It was months later when I saw him in a video…….and I said, I met this guy. I was stunned and kicked myself……I was just so stupid in those days.
Anyway, Jon/Jeff was a really nice guy. I am sorry to read what happened to him. The LSU guy says God bless and I hope you are at peace.
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