The Cult of Mormon.
America’s longest-running scam? An authoritarian and insular power structure that holds its members in a stranglehold of fear and shame? Establisher of the driest and most score-free college campus ever?
Publisher of a highly-specific guide to overcoming the insidious effects of masturbation that depicts the act as if it were heroin addiction or demonic possession?
All of the above?
Damn right. But there’s more!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints finds itself under the microscope as of late what with the recent accomplice-to-rape conviction of self-styled prophet/child slaver Warren Jeffs and the vapid would-be presidential bid of Mitt Romney, who with the aid of his saccharine sons has attempted to deflect sentiments that he’s a Mormon cyborg by staging the campaign equivalent of an Old Spice ad.
Add to that the steam-gathering trend of expose-happy Ex-Mormon blogs and you’ve got the makings for PR overdrive.
Mormonism’s biggest stumbling block is the pleasure principle. Fire and brimstone aren’t much without sin and transgression to ignite them. The Mormon faith is one that seems forever at odds with its own promulgations of chastity and the simmering smut beneath its teachings. The specter of sex can never truly be banished, only sublimated, ultimately manifesting itself in unintended admissions and usually in a far more warped form than its natural state.
The Church has never truly managed to shake the rutting monkey off their back. Naysayers will claim the whole movement was founded so its pervy haruspex Joseph Smith could legitimize his penchants for group marriage and musical mates. Its practice known as “soaking” allows young men to engage in pre-marital penetration so long as it takes place in a bath tub and no actual thrusting occurs, as passive and passionless a sex act as anyone could devise.
The flame-fanners of Queer Gnosis and their brainchild, the deconstructionist video Mormon Erotica (below), are all too happy to dredge up the substratal gonad-wrangling Mormons persevere against. Conservatives are all sentimentalists at heart, beholden to symbols like flags, monuments, holy books and lapel pins.
It’s called the Edifice Complex and the LDS is not immune. Mormon culture is wallowing in virile sexual implications: gushing fountains, phallic spires, muscular near-nude males chiseled in stone, brandished broadswords, orally-fixated bronzes, mythically robust pioneer monoliths and gigantic cannons.
Why is that all of the men depicted in the faith’s sacred renderings look like they strayed in from The Savage Sword of Conan or The Loves of Hercules, even the youngest of them appearing as if they were ready to be bestrided by a lusty Spartan gladiator? Like so many vividly-plumbed peacocks, it’s the males of the species who are bestowed with all the ardor-triggering beauty and vitality.
So where are all the hearty, brazen Amazons who should be populating this fabled world as the perfect distaff complements to these Olympian men?
Nowhere.
Only a few meek and sexless women-children languish in the background, little more than ambulatory wombs, the classic primal mother figure that no real woman with any complexity can be. This is the Patriarchy at work, reducing the ladies to chattel while the men rattle their sabres and become god-like in their fecundity. At least on paper or in engraving.
The Mormon practice of polygamy only theoretically works in the man’s favor; the ladies are never allowed their own harems of grooms who get progressively younger with each union to the point that they’re still in footie pajamas.
Even then, the reclusive and midlife crisis-burdened men with their child brides never manage to live up to being the New Adam in all his magnificence. For all its supposed licentiousness, gay porn acknowledges the very same fantasy of the Proto-Man as just that — a lusty fever dream– and fills its tableaux with impossibly salacious men-at-arms. In the end, it’s the healthier of two mediums because it makes no attempt to veil its figments with claims of loyalty to some hyper-masculine forebear from the dawn of time.
Self-defeatingly, the Mormon ethos — in its typically conflicted fashion — builds its men up to parabolically potent proportions when it comes to myth and erections of the ore and mortar variety, then proceeds to break its wild studs in the material world, celestially wedding them to their fictive Eves under a bogus mantle of rugged paternalism.
It might be a man’s world, but it’s a small world after all.
Thanks for the um, plug. You can also check out our sister site — that also deals with all things queer and Mo — (link) She has quite a few things to say about the “The Church”. Enjoy.
Troy (Queer Gnosis)
And let us not forget the Nightcharm article regarding the ‘Men on a Mission’ topless mormon young man calendar. I actually ran across one of those during the holiday season. The friend I was with took one look at it and laughed so hard, I thought she was going to pass out. The calendar screams sex and kink considering the luscious hard bodies of the men/boys and the uptight, straight laced pictures of them in their white collar shirts and black ties.
And let’s not forget the subculture of western native americans with a taste for topping Mormon boy pussy, and the missionary habit of letting themselves be so “seduced.”
Choice line from the Overcoming Masturbation Guide:
“As one meets with his Priesthood Leader, a program for overcoming masturbation can be implemented using some of these suggestions. Remember it is essential that a regular report program be agreed on, so progress can be recognized and failures understood and eliminated.”
Oh yeah. You won’t have to worry about crankin’ it on your own then.
A former boyfriend of mine was a Mormon and he lived a truly tortured existence because of it. He was finally ‘removed’ from the church, but never really recovered from the experience. I mean, he continued on in life as if dimmed or running on empty. He came out to friends as gay but you could tell he never fully reconciled his queerness with some deep part of himself. After we went our separate ways I psychoanalyzed the situation until I was brain-numb, my conclusion was that so much of his identity was formed in relation to his Mormonism — his having to hide his queerness, his fear of damnation, etc — he didn’t really know who he was any more after the church had expelled him. It’s sick. It’s twisted. But it’s all too common. Thank god for the internet and the opportunity people have to converse with other ‘pariahs.’ They stand a chance of getting a more balanced perspective on their predicament and seeing that their expulsion is something to celebrate, not live in shame about. Thanks for this funny but smart reminder Shawn. Love your stuff on this site.
It took me almost 30 years to break away from mormonism but I finally did it and am living proof that there is a significantly productive and wonderful life available to us bent ones after leaving the mormon church. I’m lucky though because for many it’s a long hard climb out; some never make it because ending their lives gets to feeling like the only escape.
To both its straight and gay boys, mormonism does immense harm vis-a-vis its unrealistic, unhealthy and often perverted proclamations on masturbation and sex. I know it’s hard for outsiders to imagine how it could be such a big deal. But for those who’ve been through it we know all too well that when mormonism is your world every word the leaders say is akin to being the word of god. A famous mormon saying is: “When the prophet speaks the thinking has been done.” Mormonism doesn’t want its members to think, it just wants them to pay, pray and obey and keep their hands off their genitals.
Homosexuality and mormonism are a volatile combination; the horror stories and the tragedies, the ruined lives and the rivers of grief are way beyond anything that should ever be associated with a supposed Christian and/or loving religion. But there you have it - Mitt Romney’s beloved mormonism; a cloaca massima filled to overflowing with shitty practices and policies that would only be attractive to a sadist.
CJ Cox’s film Latter Days did a great job of introducing the world to the gay mormon story. In many ways though it only began to scratch the surface. What lies beneath the surface is hard to explain because to those on the outside it just doesn’t seem possible that such an arena of hate-mongering and condemnation is possible. I remember walking out of Latter Days one night in SoCal and hearing a guy remark to his friend, “I just don’t get what the big deal is. That kid (gay mormon missionary Aaron) should have just walked away. Why would anyone submit to that kind of stupidity?”
That’s the problem - it’s not always that easy to just walk away because they have you by the balls. It’s OK for them to touch your balls I guess, but it’s not OK for you to touch them.
There are some collected stories here if you’re interested in learning more about the realities of being gay and mormon: (link)
Isn’t there anything else in the world to write about? Who the fuck cares about mormons and sex! Why don’t you do something on Hare Krishnas and sex, or maybe Scientologists and sex — or maybe even Presbyterians and sex! You might find something really scandalous there.
Oh, come on. I’m a Mormon from birth and I’ve never read such bull in my life. Find something that is worth tittling us with and keep the site focused on what we pay for. STay away from defaming other faiths, races, whatever. You could be accused of being ultimately that which you decry: bigoted, and non-accepting of other people’s differences.
Mitt Romney’s presidential run has brought Mormonism a bit further into the public arena, but what I find astonishing is that all the articles on Mormonism fritter around the edges of it without getting to the heart of it (a major exception to this was the thoughtful piece in the NYT Magazine, 1/6/08). I’ve taken to rolling my eyes every time the special underwear is mentioned. I’m no Mormon, but I’ve known some through the years, and I have no concern or interest over the fabric into which they stuff their hairy balls (even though it’s weird that they don’t have any choice in the matter). What weirds me out about Mormons isn’t their shorts, their plural marriage history, or their ritual baptisms for the dead. It’s that they are uniquely duplicitous AS A PEOPLE. To be a good Mormon, you must unequivocally believe that you’re right and the rest of the world is badly in error. So how’s that different than a lot of other religions? Beacuse: (1) the Mormons are actually trying to hide the facts of their religion from people. They know it’s weird, so they pose as middle American values voters and (2) because they’ve developed a whole culture of learning how to play “gentiles.” Every faithful Mormon is a part of this culture. There isn’t another way to be Mormon. Compare them to, say, Evangelicals, who are mostly slimy too, but among them there are free thinkers, a few somewhat dissident, some people of genuine good will, the Jim Wallises. Look at Catholics with Dorothy Day or Thomas Merton. There can’t be a Mormon Dorothy Day.
If you think I’m wrong, go ask any faithful Mormon about why Blacks weren’t allowed in their priesthood till the 70s–and if it’s because Blacks are souls who took neither side in the great battle in heaven. And if that changed somehow in the 70s. They’ll spin it better and faster than Bill O’Reilly. Then go ask another one–any faithful Mormon will do, even a teenager. You’ll get the identical spin. They’re taught this shit from the cradle. From a young age they’re taught the art of spinning facts about their faith to the community outside.
If you don’t get this about them, you’ll misunderstand any conversation you have with any of them.
“Stay away from defaming other faiths, races, whatever. You could be accused of being ultimately that which you decry: bigoted, and non-accepting of other people’s differences.”
And here we have an immense glass cathedral built to hypocrisy crashing down into shards of double-talk and spin-speak. Way to take a stand. Why should you be protected when the venom you help foster with countless millions of dollars blows back at you?
The Mormon Faith exemplifies exactly what homosexuality is so oft-accused of: recruiting the young and confused for the purpose of sexual exploitation and control, isolating people from their families, practicing unhealthy and secretive sexual acts, using a conspiratorial wall to surround itself, being elitist and well-funded and resorting to separatism in its own hermetic communities.
We’re in an age where there are concerted efforts being made by the Godly to create an American Mythos that is not real and never has been. Notions of magical gardens, arks with no critical mass, angels in the ether, Raptures, God’s personal torture pit, presidents put into office by Divine Right, chosen nations, chosen people etc. abound. Like fairytales, they offer simplistic answers to complex questions and draw convenient lines between Good and Evil. The hitch is that once objectivity and critical thought enter into the scheme, the spell is effectively broken.
Suddenly, all the prophets and soothsayers with their direct lines to the Highest Power come across as demagogues with very earthly vested interests (power, influence and naturally $$$) in playing to longheld fears and prejudices.
But yeah, you’ve been maligned. So sorry.
KB honey, unless you’re helping pay the server costs for Nightcharm please don’t lodge complaints about getting ‘what we paid for.’
Nightcharm’s editorial content is always 100% free (except for me) and is, for the most part, separate from our members area the Inner Circle (which subscribers pay for). Get clear on that before you start yammering about being deprived of something.
David K.
Publisher and Tittler Supreme
“Oh, come on. I’m a Mormon from birth and I’ve never read such bull in my life. Find something that is worth tittling us with and keep the site focused on what we pay for.”
Um, kind of a douchebaggy thing to say since you’re supposed to avoid anything remotely porno-related like the plague. You’re outing yourself as a Two Face and a closet MormoQueer. You should know it’s the 7th Commandment in the spank guide:
“Never look at pornography on the internet or elsewhere. Never read about your problem (even on sites claiming to be “educational”). Keep it out of mind. Remember –”First a thought, then an act.” The thought pattern must be changed. You must not allow this problem to remain in your mind. When you accomplish that, you soon will be free of the act.”
Don’t you carry the jerkoff guide in your back pocket like a good litte soldier? Shame, shame.
Tittler Supreme? Great name for a set of nipple clamps. Rawr.
*tittling*
HUUUM …. Last time I read anything about Jeffs he wasn’t a Mormon. He is a member of another church. Mormons don’t practice polygamy. Who’s next on your hit list … the Baptists?
Monty. Thanks for splitting an already very fine hair.
Definiton of “branch”: an extension from a central source; a subsection.
Jeffs was the head of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter-day Saints, an offshoot (one of dozens) of the Mormon Faith that parted ways with the LDS over the issue of polygamy, proving the Church capable of blatant hypocrisy even within its own ranks. The exclusion of blacks from the Mormon priesthood — again, another issue the LDS softend its stance on fairly recently and only after much public criticism — is the second commonly-held distinction between the two branches.
There are similarities between the two based on common doctrines, despite the constant attempts on the part of LDS to distance itself from the FLDS. It all typically comes down to one faction laying claim to being the only legitimate successor to Joseph Smith– as in the one “true” faith every religion prides itsef as being. To quote Bart Simpson’s take on faiths jockeying for position : “People! It’s not about the little stupid differences, it’s about the big stupid similarities!”
One ex-Mormon blog refers to the FLDS as “the LDS’ Inc.’s crazy old aunt locked in the attic who refuses to die.” In essence, you have one “mainstream” faction denouncing the other for the very ideas it practiced itself and would certainly have continued to do so would it not harm their public image and PR machine. The FLDS is for those who find the LDS not quite fundamental enough and who seek to keep its pre-Manifesto ideologies alive.
Two more ex-Mormon witticisms that are as apt as anything I could come up with:
“Any outsider of average intelligence is bound to understand that if those who proclaim the bible are known as bible-thumpers, then any who proclaim the book of mormon should be known as….mormons.”
“The present Mormon church regularly throws ‘oldies but goodies’ concerts, claiming to have preserved the original sound and style of the band, but ends up constantly changing the tunes and the players when people start booing and demanding their money back.”
Hey Shawn…
Your article was accurate and well written. Thanks for taking the time to share it here at NC. My experience over the years has been that many gay mormon guys still in denial about being gay often tend to be critical of homosexuality or anything related to it. It’s painful to know that you’re gay and yet still be trying to toe the line with mormonism. It creates a lot of confusion, cognitive dissonance, isolation and sometimes self-loathing.
Anyone here who’s writing a pro-mormon response or rebuttal to Shawn’s article is to be pitied because they’re probably living in a world of hurt. A believing mormon showing up here at all is a pretty big violation of moral mandate. OK, so you’ve defended your faith for a minute or two. Does that mean you get to enjoy Nightcharm guilt-free now?
“Um, kind of a douchebaggy thing to say since you’re supposed to avoid anything remotely porno-related like the plague.”
A bit presumptuous of you don’t you think? You don’t have to be surfing porn sites to come across this blog…I got here via links posted on anti-mormon sites. I must say, there is a lot of bigoted hate mongering going on here, a total lack of ‘diversity and tolerance’. That very spring of tolerance has become a stagnant cesspool in which the gay community so piously anoints itself. Intolerance of those who disagree with ‘the gay culture in general’, has become its hallmark. Intolerance, bigotry, hatred, name-calling and character assassination has become the religion, the sacrament of gay world.
These are the very stones of which gays chronically whine are always hurled at them. There are a lot of errors, misconceptions and flat-out lies that have been written about the LDS(Mormon)faith in so many hate filled blogs that I have come across, including this blog and its reader’s remarks. I have known many Mormons in the US, Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa and South America. Some of them are monumental jerks, and I know more about their religion than many of them do themselves, but the majority of them in my experience are very fine, hardworking, honorable people. The majority of the ‘Ex-Mormon’ bloggers, of which there are many, seem to have an ax to grind and a huge chip on their collective shoulders.
“You’re outing yourself as a Two Face and a closet MormoQueer. Don’t you carry the jerkoff guide in your back pocket like a good litte [sic] soldier? Shame, shame.”
If a ’str8′ calls you a ‘queer’ you complain it’s a homophobic’s, anti-gay slur, and oh my, how it hurts your feelings and damages you emotionally and psychologically. Not only you but the entire gay world. My goodness, you may have to file charges of a hate-crime. It’s a clear-cut case of harassment at the very least!
Yet you hurl the very same epithet yourself at a complete stranger. A fellow gay, in your assessment, victimized by the big bad Mormon Priesthood. Clearly it was intended to be insulting and hurtful as a ‘gay-Mormon’ slur aimed not only at the individual ‘gay mormon’ but at ALL Mormons, because anyone that may believe in Mormon doctrine has got to be stupid, a bigot, a homophobe or at the very least a gullible fool. Now isn’t that an impressive act of class.
Aren’t you being just the tiniest bit duplicitous? Not to mention the fact that anyone who disagrees with you is a bona fide homophobe. Just one example of derogatory, bigoted, name calling on your oh so tolerant, accepting and unblemished part. Bless your heart!
Shame, shame on your own haughty little self. Come on. I thought that the vaunted gay community was better than that. Or am I giving too much credit where none has been earned….in the words of the ignominious Rodney King, “Can’t we all just get along?”
“Aren’t you being just the tiniest bit duplicitous? Not to mention the fact that anyone who disagrees with you is a bona fide homophobe.”
No, no. Not a homophobe. In your case just sanctimonious, clueless, hand-wringlingly lame and utterly asinine spouter of every disingenuous, faux-tolerant cliche the Hard Right trots out when its own vitriol comes to light.
But I’ll give you a measure of credit for having the temerity to allude to Rodney King in order to somehow make the agonzing plight of poor, oppressed Mormons seem just that much more pitiful. A lesser man might’ve used Moses or Rosa Parks. And kudos for completely letting an earlier comment on the church’s racist stance (which it’s defended by basically pointing to other religious institutions and saying “Well so are they!”) go completely over your head as you co-opt a plea for racial tolerance in order to smokescreen. A marvelous bait-and-switch, Sir James!
One could say that the very religious/political (and is there really a difference anymore?) organizations who have traditionally opposed women’s suffrage, the civil rights movement, the ACLU, immigration, science, etc. now suddenly doing a roundabout and claiming that they themselves are an oppressed class because their own hatred of any difference has become so pronounced it’s actually turning inward like an ingrown toenail is the apex of their megalomania.
The LDS has funneled no small amount of its riches into lobbying to ban gay marriage at every turn. We live in nation where it’s considered less unsavory to have a dozen wives than it is to have one same-sex spouse. Apparently, we’re also comprised of only white, Christian puritans, with everyone else encroaching on sacred ground. Mike “I Heart” Homphobes actually paraphrazes Gore Vidal in order to dodge claims he’s anti-gay, then reverts to the tried-and-true bestiality argument (long-on-the-tooth even in the good ol’ 1930s) to pander shamelessly to that very sentiment. Larry Craig does hims damndest to limit gay rights, then bemoans being “profiled” by the police when he’s caught in the stalls. Ted Haggard appears memorably in the immortal “Jesus Camp” and snorts meth off a hustler’s ass in his off-time. Lynne “The Bride of Sauron” Cheney graces “The Daily Show” in fabulously irony-free mode and proclaims her lesbian daughter’s private life just that — a family concern not for public consumption and wedge-issuing. This despite the fact that Dad and Uncle George use the issue every election period to unite the faithful. Ever see that indignant, patronizing look Mitt Romney gets on his face when he’s quizzed about his personal beliefs? I mean, how dare anyone pry into his affairs or suggest his ethos is anything less than wholesome?
So here’s what we’re gonna have you do, Saint James of the Sacred Heart. You’re gonna do you own research and provide us with all the countless numbers of Mormons, Evangelicals and Fundamentalist whatevers who have lost jobs, been cast out of families, been told their marriages are effectively subhuman, been burned in effigy, been targeted by the police and moral-mongering politicos, faced legislation that endeavors to control their bodies, had their funerals picketed by zealots claiming AIDS is God’s vengeance upon them, had their lives branded as evil by primitive superstitions, died violently at the hands of KKK-happy rednecks, been discharged from the military, and have been forced to undergo unethical “medical” treatments to cure them of their transgressions. And when that number somehow magically outweighs the sufferings and struggles of America’s true underclasses, you come right back here.
Then you can cry us another river.
“So here’s what we’re gonna have you do, Saint James of the Sacred Heart….”
Talk about being sanctimonious. I suppose ‘Saint James of the Sacred Heart’ is supposed to put me in my place. I tremble before your piety. Oh, how I need to be humbled by you. First of all ‘we’re’ not going to do anything. You presume to know an awful lot about me. You must be a psychic. So many liberals do put all their faith in science, the para-normal and the black arts.
I came back to this site to checkout any response, if any, to my comments.
I am not surprised by the hatred spewed my way. I sit stand the middle ground and observe the ongoing battle between the right and the left. If anything is said that is not in line with the standard line of propaganda, liberal or conservative, it is greeted with animosity, paranoia and hatred. Both extremes are just as blind and despicable as the other. It saddens me. I am not your enemy. But go ahead and pile-on if it makes you happy. I can take it. You won’t be the first.
I will not likely read your comments since this is not the type of blog I frequent. As I stated earlier I got here via links on anti-Mormon blogs while researching.
As for crying another river, I have already cried rivers over many of my very close gay friends that have died much too soon, thank you. Had my friends acted responsibly (we already knew the risks of AIDS) we would still be enjoying each others company. I miss my friends and coworkers and grieve over the irresponsibility that took them from me.
I have been the victim of a gay-bashing in my hometown of Manhattan simply because I was in the company of gay friends. Your presumptions about me are derivative of your blindness stemming from your hatred of anyone that doesn’t agree lock-step with your liberal dribble. I’d say the same to any evangelical who thinks I’m dammed because I don’t hate everyone he hates.
“…I’ll give you a measure of credit for having the temerity to allude to Rodney King in order to somehow make the agonzing [sic] plight of poor, oppressed Mormons seem just that much more pitiful…”
The Rodney King quote referred to all of us as Americans, not a plea for the plight of Mormons, if there is any. Incidentally, Rodney King was and is a life-long criminal, fool and loser. That doesn’t make me a racist as you implied. He is what he is irrespective of the color of his skin. Nor does it belittle the message of his quote, “Can’t we all just get along.”, is a very sensible and admirable plea.
Since the President/Prophet, Gordon B. Hinckley, of the Mormon Church died yesterday evening, I expect you and all of your Gay Activist, liberal, ACLU, NAMBLA, PETA, atheist, politically correct, Global Warming duped, alien abductee, friends will be gleefully dancing on his grave and mocking the tears his followers shed for him. Go ahead, be my guest. But just in case he is a prophet of God, do so at your own risk.
So come on, chill.
Let’s try a different non-political quote, “God bless us, everyone.”
Oh, woops, my bad! It included the word God. Oh dear! That must make me an intolerant, far right, let’s poison the water and air and destroy the earth, neo-con Christian bigot or maybe even a Jew. Everyone knows they are, of course, the only ones that believe in God.
“You don’t have to be surfing porn sites to come across this blog…I got here via links posted on anti-mormon sites. I must say, there is a lot of bigoted hate mongering going on here, a total lack of ‘diversity and tolerance’.”
Ooooh right on brother! And we totally believe you.
Nobody owes you anything. You can’t honestly think you’re the first crank who just happens to “stumble” on to this blog by accident so he can rant about how terrible we are because we don’t buy into the bullshit the God Squad shovels out. Sure, you’re here for the articles just like all the rest, right? The first guy’s a gay Mormon complaining there isn’t enough porn in the article and you’re going to reverse-psychoanalyze and complain about our spelling. And use the “some of my best friends are…” line!
Yeah. You’re just that special Jimbo.
But just in case he is a prophet of God, do so at your own risk.
Oh sheesh, Mary PUHLEEZE…
“I will not likely read your comments since this is not the type of blog I frequent. As I stated earlier I got here via links on anti-Mormon blogs while researching.”
Of course, James. The Inner Circle icon is located at the upper right. Just click on the naked man.
You’ll notice I provided verifiable examples in my comments that were well-publicized. What I was looking for from you were actual far-reaching exemplars from the last eight years that would encourage us to be less cynical about faith-based government, family values movements, pillar-of-the-community-double-talk, et al., not a lot of dubious and self-serving pats on the back pertaining to what a cosmopolitan man-about-town, survivor of the mean streets and super cool BFF you are.
Don’t get me wrong. Your self-martyrdom is epic. Your bathetic, hackneyed quotations moving and useless in an aphorism-of-the-day desk calendar sort of way. Your begging a blog full of testosterone-fueled Alpha-Gays to pile-on you suggests there’s no end to your capacity for introspection and self-awareness.
But here’s the real “content” to your diatribe: none-too-subtle references that link gays to the para-normal [sic], black magic, the “they-had-it-coming” AIDS argument, NAMBLA (cha-ching!), atheism, alien abduction (?), the Global Warming Conspiracy and eternal damnation. I think the only standard-issue cliches you missed were cannibalism, Communism and vampirism, so you’re to be applauded for being relatively thorough. Maybe it’s just that your sarcasm is so wonky, but the second paragraph from the bottom apparently negates everything that came before it. So your attempt at humor is groaningly pained and your slang in desperate need of updating or you couldn’t even manage to maintain a consistent pretense for the span of your rant.
Either way…Bravo?
So thank you for gracing our humble den of Liberal Conspiracy. Like any narcissist worth his salt, you boiled a complex ideological conflict down to being all about you and your personal pain. And like any great hypocrite, you had it both ways.
“But just in case he is a prophet of God, do so at your own risk.”
So we’re supposed to pay lip service to anyone on the off-chance they might be God’s prophet? Or is it just the wealthy and well-connected ones?
james seems to be the only man who doesnt bear some sordid seed of hate.
Or sordid seed of self-awareness.
Have you actually read what he’s written?
this just pisses me off why the hell is there an anti anything and that one person is right warren jeffs aint no damn mormon our head is thomas s monson how could u even mistake that polyg bitch as our head get ur fucken facts str8 bitch! and i am what is known as a lolita morm who obvsly r not very nice if i knew who wrote this i would gouge their eyes out with lolicon ( similar 2 a gothic cross) flds=polygamists lds=average purity obsessed mormons LLDS=me! demented god lovers and not caring if ur gay!!